I was out at Smoky-Drinky earlier. Grandfather of Stolen Child (stolen by a Scottish council, by the way) has just been rated zero points for disability, ie he is classed as fit for work. Also, the council have decided now to cut his council tax relief. He is short one finger and has serious arthritis, he has two lots of surgery booked on his hands, he put a DVD in the machine and had to crawl back to a chair to get upright, and he is not classed as disabled. He is expected to get a job.
I have been trying to find a menial part-time job for about a year with no luck and I can get up on my own, I have all the fingers I started with and mine all move. I also have many, many more qualifications. He has no chance of a job. None.
We are talking about a lifelong SNP supporter, in fact a whole (large) family of SNP supporters, some of whom heard a few things tonight that might change their minds. Independence is the key to the SNP success in Scotland but independence is not what they are offering.
What is on offer is a switch from ‘slaves to England’ to ‘slaves to the Salmond Collective and his EU bosses’. Once that is explained, SNP support wavers. I hope the message spreads, and fast, because Salmond is following the Hitler agenda of racial improvement and Green control, just like the EU and Wastemonster. He is no different, the SNP is no different, it’s all a con.
So, Oily Al, I dented your support base earlier tonight. Again. Another little chip at your edifice. It’s not a chip you’ll notice but every one of them adds up. Like rust getting into a stone chip on a car, it will spread beneath the surface until it erupts into a huge and unsightly lump.
The SNP hate me, and all those like me. They have made their feelings plain. All other main parties have done the same.
All they are getting back is what they have given out. Is that in any way unfair, do you think?
“He is no different, the SNP is no different, it’s all a con.”
None of them are any different, sadly…
Of course, in Stalin’s version of a Nazi Reich, a little to the east over the garden fence from the other one, there was no unemployment: one was classified as “looking for work”. As to the poor wretched fellow you describe, he’d have been “sent for treatment” somewhere exciting by Stalin, and by Hitler’s goons he’d have been “resettled”.
And in both places, he would quickly have found “A permanent place of residence”.
But a vote for independence will not be a vote of the SNP. As soon a independence is achieved the reasons for their existence will end. They are politicians at the end of the day no doubt bout that.
Yes means change and change willl sweep Alex away. He’ll still be in the history books which should be enough for his ego.
That’s not true TT. There are examples galore where independence supporting parties become just as prominent after achieving independence. Ireland is the nearest example to us.
Scotland will just be another region of the EU after independence so will be no more independent from euro control than the UK is. The SNP have already taken steps to fall in line..single fire service and police service iaw the regions policy, NATO member with nuclear weapons, euro currency
proposals etc.
Let’s see how it pans out George.
I am a Scot living in England but most of my family and friends are still in Scotland. Only one of them intends to vote for independence and I very much doubt it will pass. Personally I think a federation would be better but with proportionate representation for naional issues and expenditure and everything else left to the people raising the money on how to spend it so no votes on issues that don’t affect yout own constituency. I think that would be fairer to everyone.
http://nollyprott.wordpress.com/2012/06/20/green-holocaust-2/
What is on offer is a switch from ‘slaves to England’ to ‘slaves to the Salmond Collective and his EU bosses’.
Did The Who not have something to sing about this?
It’s highly unlikely that Scotland will get its independence – political manoeuvring will see to that. It doesn’t matter, in truth, whether Scottish people want it or not – it won’t be countenanced, and Oily Al knows it. Why not? Well, because if Scotland gets true independence then the United Kingdom as a country no longer exists and thus our membership of the EU would have to be renegotiated by the now-individual countries. It would then be almost impossible for whichever party was in power in Westminster to avoid an in/out referendum, and one of the reasons why they haven’t had one of those yet is because they know the answer would be an overwhelming “out.” Scotland may decide to stay in (don’t know what the EU feeling is in Scotland), but even if they did, it wouldn’t make any difference to the referendum, because as a now-separate country they wouldn’t be taking part. And withdrawing from the EU completely is the one thing which Westminster politicians are desperate to avoid. I’d go so far as to say they’d repeal the smoking ban before they’d decide to pull out of Europe – and we all know how devotedly wedded all the major parties are to that, don’t we? But that’s how strongly they feel about it.
I suspect that Oily Al will save face by offering the Scottish people the much-talked-about three-way referendum: (1) complete independence, (2) maintaining the UK as it is, but with greater powers for the Scottish Parliament or (3) keeping the status quo, gambling on the idea that most Scottish people will vote overwhelmingly for the middle option, thus increasing his own power and influence, avoiding the nasty EU-referendum-across-the-border scenario, and at the same time giving himself bragging rights as the politician to “gave Scotland a real choice,” thus enabling him to convince (at least some) Scottish people of the myth that he actually gives a damn about anything other than himself. But it’s a risk. It’d certainly scare the pants off him if he thought that the Scottish people might vote for Option 1, because of the political fall-out that would follow. Which might be why it’s always “jam tomorrow” for those Scottish people who are keen to have their say in a referendum about their country’s future.
Maybe if more people in England were made aware of the EU implications of Scottish independence, there’d be calls for a referendum in England on the matter as a back-door way of getting the referendum they’ve so far been denied on Europe! Now there’s a thought for Oily Al – but that’s assuming, of course, that he really means what he says about wanting a truly independent Scotland. And how likely is that? After all, he is a politician …