I don’t have the next chapter of Panoptica ready for this week. I’ll have to catch up later.

Why? Because the coroner has not yet managed to get off his arse and contact the doctor, so there is no death certificate for my father. It’s been almost a week.

Nothing can happen without that certificate. The funeral director cannot set a date for the funeral, already it’s going back into March. Pensions cannot be cancelled. My mother has cancelled his seat on a flight she’d booked but cannot get a refund without that certificate.

There is money set aside for the funeral. That cannot be released without that certificate.

The South Wales coroner is beginning to look like a figment of the imagination. Even the doctors can’t find him.

This is not an unusual occurrence. This coroner has delayed funerals for a month in many cases. We’ve heard so many tales now.

How the hell can a coroner justify leaving families in limbo like this? My father did not die in any suspicious circumstance. He was 82 and disabled. He collapsed in front of many witnesses. There is nothing to investigate here, no need for this delay. As in so many other cases.

We are in limbo. No idea when my father’s funeral will be. The funeral director has, I hear, been excellent as far as they can be, but can set nothing in motion without that certificate. The same for all the others, pensions, flights, banks etc. Only the coroner is holding everything back.

I hope I never meet this coroner. It could end up with me spending time in jail.

After what he has put my mother through, especially, I feel it could be worth it.

15 thoughts on “Limbo

  1. My husband died very suddenly,after a fall at home so there had to be a PM. After that a death certificate was issued to allow funeral and financial arrangements to proceed. Can’t remember what it was called but after the inquest a final certificate was released. The initial certificate to release the body was issued quickly and he died on New Years Day but the Coroner was very good and knew the family needed to get on with arrangements. This was in Cambridge I don’t know if Wales is different. My condolences and hope it’s sorted soon as there seems no reason for any delay.

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  2. It’s up to the dr to issue the certificate, colloquially known as the death certificate, or officially the Medical Certificate Cause of Death. Unless there was a post mortem examination , then in that case the Coroner needs to issue a Certificate “B”: stating the cause death following a post mortem examination.

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  3. It’s up to the dr to issue a certificate unless there was a post mortem examination. Suspicion is nothing to do with it , if here was a post mortem examination then it is up the coroner to issue what is known as a form B. Ring the Coroner’s office, or alternatively I don’t know why the funeral director is not chasing. They’re paid enough.

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    • As I understand it, in Wales at least, the doctor cannot sign the certificate until hte coroner has declared cause of death. If they can’t agree, or can’t determine, cause of death there has to be an autopsy. The doctor is the one who’s been chasing the coroner all week.

      They have now taken a week to come to no decision. Next week there will be an autopsy. So the funeral cannot now happen earlier than March 10th. At this rate he’ll have reincarnated before he’s cremated.

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      • Unless the law in Wales is different , then the dr has to sign the certificate giving the cause of death, “ to the best of their knowledge and belief”. The coroner did not attend to the patient. The death only needs to be reported in certain circumstances, including if the dr cannot offer a reason for the death, but in an 82 year old man with many reasons to suddenly pass away then it’s ridiculous. The issuing dr also has to sign the cremation papers. My advice is to get the funeral director to chase the matter up, as I said previously you will be paying them enough make them earn it. Did your father actually make it to hospital, because that’s another angle.

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        • He didn’t make it to hospital, no, he was dead at the scene. It was very quick.
          The doctor says all his recent tests came back clear so has no idea of cause of death. There will be an autopsy this week.


  4. Bloody hell Leggy.

    Over here in Canada, when my dear old mum passed away last September, she donated her body to science (as my dad had done before her). She passed away near 9am on a Saturday. On Sunday evening, just before 6pm, the death certificate (plus copies) were delivered to my sister’s house. She lives 30 miles away from the funeral home. Sheesh!

    Mind you, this was in Ontario. A friend’s father-in-law passed away that same month in the province of Quebec. At that time there was a 3 month backlog in the entire province for getting death certificate’s issued!


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  5. Sheeesh. Sorry to hear of this Leg. Rough enough to lose your dad without having to fight extended paperwork battles that are pointless.

    Panoptica can wait. Attend to your mom and finish up affairs with your dad.

    We ain’t goin’ nowhere.

    – Michael

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  6. If one dies at home (like my mum) you get the 999 paramedics, then the plod turns up and takes statements from them and me (as I was in the house when she passed) then the funeral directors turn up and remove the mortal remains (to the “cold room, as they tastefully call it) then the remains gets passed to the procurator fiscal’s office and the coroner does an autopsy to determine there are no suspicious causes. In my mums case it took from 20th May (her passing) to 6th June before all the legal processes were sorted out. I have to say though that all the agencies involved were most respectful and helpful during the process, the PF office phoned the house to say all the legalities had been completed. Still doesn’t make it any less upsetting or stressful.

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    • That is the case everywhere in the U.K. However , there is only a post mortem examination if no Dr is able to give a cause of death, or the death is obviously not from natural causes.
      I wonder if your father has attended his G.P. in the last fortnight , he will know him and his conditions and may be able to issue a cause of death.

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  7. Sincere condolences LI for you’re sad loss.
    My Father died many years ago, my Mother passed away last year, even at 60 odd years of age, my Mother suddenly passing away had a profound effect on my life.

    I know drink even more red wine, but that just makes up for the loss of smoking. The anti- Smoking righteous got me scared of my own shadow in the end.

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